Herbert Dainty Player Profile

Personal

  • Full Name: Herbert Charles Dainty
  • Born: February 6th, 1879 (Geddington, England)
  • Died: 1961 (Dundee)
  • Height: 5' 8

Career

  • Position: Centre-Back
  • Signed: August 12th, 1905
  • Date Left Club: May 5th, 1911
  • First Manager: William Wallace
  • Dundee Career Totals:
    211 first team competitive appearances
    25 first team competitive goals
  • Also Played For: Ayr United, Bradford Park Avenue, Dundee United, Kettering Town, Leicester City, Northampton Town, Notts County, Southampton


Dundee Career Summary


Competitive Friendlies Other (War)
1905-06 31 5 - - - -
1906-07 36 6 - - - -
1907-08 37 8 - - - -
1908-09 33 4 - - - -
1909-10 38 1 - - - -
1910-11 36 1 - - - -
TOTAL 211 25 - - - -

NOTES:
Other Cups may include: Anglo-Scottish Cup, Challenge Cup, Cup Winners' Cup, Drybrough Cup, International Soccer League, League Cup, Summer Cup, Texaco Cup.


Biography


Herbert C. Dainty began his career with his local side in Northamptonshire, Kettering Town.

In 1899, he joined Leicester Fosse who are now known as Leicester City. Dainty became a prominent figure for the club, quickly gaining the reputation of being one of the best centre halves in the Second Division of the English League

With the formation of Brighton Tower Club, he accepted a handsome contract to join them where he was joined by two well-known Dundonians, Frank Barrett and Bob Petrie

After only one season, he was back at Leicester Fosse where he produced the same performances as he did during his first spell.

Dainty was on the move yet again, this time to Notts County were he yet again proved invaluable to any team he played for with excellent performances at right half-back.

Again, like all his clubs before, after only one season, he was on the move yet again, thia time joining Southampton who were Southern League Champions at the time.

Eventually, he made his way up to Scotland to sign for Dundee and it's here where he would spend the last time of his career with one club.

Upon signing, the Evening Telegraph reporter gave the Dark Blue fans a brief description of Dainty:

"Perhaps the most prominent feature of his play is the surprising height at which he can reach the ball with his head, as time and again he will get the sphere away from players inches taller than himself."

In his six season with Dundee, Dainty scored an impressive 25 goals in 211 games as a defender, which would make him one of Dundee's highest scoring defenders for the club.

Dainty was one of the first names on the team sheets each week and rarely missed a game for the Dee.

Twice while with Dundee, Herbert found himself finishing runner-up in the League and twice it was Celtic that pipped him to the title.

In 1906-07, Dundee finished 7 points behind the Glasgow side and in 1908-09, it was just one agonising point this time.

He would taste success with the club and the following season, Dundee would lift the Scottish Cup after a third replay with Clyde to deem the winners.

The following season would be his last with Dundee and he was announced as Leicester Fosse's new player-manager in March 1911 but the day after, the Dundee directors denied any knowledge of Dainty leaving for Fosse and it was reminded that any attempt to sign approach a player without consent during the season was serious infringement of the rules.

Dainty would also come out to deny this story.

He would leave Dundee however and it was to Bradford Park Avenue for a fairly high price which Dainty received a fair share of.

The day before signing for Bradford, Dainty was in Ireland speaking to Belfast Distillery about becoming their player-manager but negotiations fell through on the eleventh hour.

After a few season with Bradford, Dainty moved to Ayr United in October 1913 where he became increasingly popular with the players and when the first ever managers job at Somerset Park opened up, he beat 17 other applicants to the job to take up the post in May 1914.

In 1915, Dundee Hibs paid a club record fee and the highest ever paid by a Second Division club in Scotland for Dainty to become their player-manager, with their current manager Pat Reilly brokering the deal as he prepares to become club secretary.

The beat off Hibs who were also prepared to meet the transfer fee for Dainty.

With the outbreak of the First World War, Dainty's time in charge would entirely be played in the Eastern Division.

During this time, there wasn't a lot of games in the division so Dainty began organising games in aid of worthy charities and organisations such and the Red Cross and Prison
aid of such wor thy and important organisations like the Red Cross and the Prison of War Benefit Appeal.

He called his team the 'Dainty's XI' and arranged matches for his select teams of professional players against any available positions.

He stepped down as manager but continued playing for Dundee Hibs before joining their board in 1920 and then Club Chairman in 1922.

Dainty ran a business in Dundee at 51-53 Commercial Street, now Tickety Boos.

Debut

August 19th, 1905
Dundee 1 - 2 St Mirren

League (Division One)


Playing Statistics - First Team Competitive matches (All Seasons)



Competition NPS Win % Draw % Loss %
League 18624- --
Scottish Cup 251- --
Totals: 21125- --

 Recent Starting Appearances (First Team Competitive matches)
 29/04/11 Division One vs. Morton (H) 1 - 2
 19/04/11 Division One vs. Hamilton (A) 2 - 1
 15/04/11 Division One vs. Motherwell (H) 3 - 1
 10/04/11 Division One vs. Airdrie (H) 1 - 0
 08/04/11 Division One vs. Rangers (H) 0 - 2

 Recent Goals Scored (First Team Competitive matches)
 15/10/10 Division One vs. Airdrie (A) 1 - 3
 25/12/09 Division One vs. Third Lanark (A) 2 - 0
 13/03/09 Division One vs. St Mirren (A) 2 - 1
 23/01/09 1st Round vs. Ayr Parkhouse (H) 9 - 0
 19/12/08 Division One vs. St Mirren (H) 4 - 1

 List of First Team Competitive matches played (click to expand)
 29/04/11 Division One vs. Morton (H)  1 - 2
 19/04/11 Division One vs. Hamilton (A)  2 - 1
 15/04/11 Division One vs. Motherwell (H)  3 - 1
 10/04/11 Division One vs. Airdrie (H)  1 - 0
 08/04/11 Division One vs. Rangers (H)  0 - 2
 01/04/11 Division One vs. Queen's Park (A)  2 - 1
 25/03/11 Division One vs. St Mirren (A)  0 - 1
 11/03/11 Semi Final vs. Hamilton (A)  2 - 3
 25/02/11 3rd Round vs. Rangers (H)  2 - 1
 11/02/11 2nd Round vs. Partick (A)  3 - 0
 04/02/11 Division One vs. Partick (A)  2 - 3
 28/01/11 1st Round vs. Hibernian (H)  2 - 1
 21/01/11 Division One vs. Raith Rovers (H)  3 - 1
 14/01/11 Division One vs. St Mirren (H)  5 - 1
 07/01/11 Division One vs. Raith Rovers (A)  1 - 2
 02/01/11 Division One vs. Falkirk (H)  1 - 1
 31/12/10 Division One vs. Hamilton (H)  2 - 0
 24/12/10 Division One vs. Aberdeen (A)  0 - 0
 17/12/10 Division One vs. Clyde (H)  1 - 0
 10/12/10 Division One vs. Hearts (H)  4 - 1
 03/12/10 Division One vs. Kilmarnock (A)  0 - 2
 26/11/10 Division One vs. Celtic (H)  1 - 0
 19/11/10 Division One vs. Morton (A)  1 - 1
 12/11/10 Division One vs. Aberdeen (H)  2 - 0
 05/11/10 Division One vs. Partick (H)  2 - 1
 29/10/10 Division One vs. Hearts (A)  3 - 2
 22/10/10 Division One vs. Third Lanark (H)  2 - 1
 15/10/10 Division One vs. Airdrie (A)  1 - 3
 08/10/10 Division One vs. Kilmarnock (H)  2 - 1
 01/10/10 Division One vs. Falkirk (A)  1 - 0
 26/09/10 Division One vs. Clyde (A)  1 - 1
 24/09/10 Division One vs. Queen's Park (H)  5 - 0
 17/09/10 Division One vs. Celtic (A)  1 - 2
 03/09/10 Division One vs. Rangers (A)  2 - 1
 27/08/10 Division One vs. Hibernian (H)  1 - 1
 20/08/10 Division One vs. Motherwell (A)  0 - 3
 30/04/10 Division One vs. Celtic (H)  0 - 0
 27/04/10 Division One vs. Clyde (A)  0 - 2
 25/04/10 Division One vs. Motherwell (A)  1 - 1
 23/04/10 Division One vs. Aberdeen (A)  1 - 3
 20/04/10 Final Second Replay vs. Clyde (N)  2 - 1
 16/04/10 Final Replay vs. Clyde (N)  0 - 0
 09/04/10 Final vs. Clyde (N)  2 - 2
 02/04/10 Division One vs. Queen's Park (H)  3 - 0
 28/03/10 Division One vs. Partick (A)  0 - 1
 23/03/10 Semi Final Second Replay vs. Hibernian (N)  1 - 0
 19/03/10 Semi Final Replay vs. Hibernian (H)  0 - 0
 12/03/10 Semi Final vs. Hibernian (A)  0 - 0
 05/03/10 Division One vs. Hamilton (H)  2 - 1
 26/02/10 3rd Round vs. Motherwell (A)  3 - 1
 12/02/10 Division One vs. Morton (H)  2 - 1
 05/02/10 2nd Round vs. Falkirk (H)  3 - 0
 29/01/10 1st Round Replay vs. Beith (H)  1 - 0
 22/01/10 1st Round vs. Beith (A)  1 - 1
 15/01/10 Division One vs. Falkirk (H)  1 - 0
 08/01/10 Division One vs. Hamilton (A)  3 - 3
 03/01/10 Division One vs. Hearts (A)  0 - 1
 01/01/10 Division One vs. Aberdeen (H)  0 - 0
 25/12/09 Division One vs. Third Lanark (A)  2 - 0
 11/12/09 Division One vs. Falkirk (A)  1 - 6
 04/12/09 Division One vs. Clyde (H)  1 - 1
 27/11/09 Division One vs. Queen's Park (A)  0 - 3
 20/11/09 Division One vs. Port Glasgow Ath (H)  4 - 0
 13/11/09 Division One vs. Hearts (H)  4 - 1
 06/11/09 Division One vs. Hibernian (A)  0 - 0
 30/10/09 Division One vs. Third Lanark (H)  2 - 0
 23/10/09 Division One vs. St Mirren (A)  2 - 3
 16/10/09 Division One vs. Kilmarnock (H)  2 - 2
 02/10/09 Division One vs. Celtic (A)  0 - 1
 27/09/09 Division One vs. Rangers (A)  1 - 2
 18/09/09 Division One vs. St Mirren (H)  2 - 1
 04/09/09 Division One vs. Rangers (H)  4 - 2
 28/08/09 Division One vs. Morton (A)  0 - 1
 21/08/09 Division One vs. Motherwell (H)  2 - 0
 27/03/09 Division One vs. Third Lanark (H)  1 - 0
 20/03/09 Division One vs. Hearts (A)  0 - 1
 13/03/09 Division One vs. St Mirren (A)  2 - 1
 06/03/09 Division One vs. Clyde (A)  2 - 0
 27/02/09 Division One vs. Morton (H)  1 - 2
 20/02/09 Division One vs. Hibernian (A)  1 - 0
 13/02/09 2nd Round Replay vs. Rangers (A)  0 - 1
 06/02/09 2nd Round vs. Rangers (H)  0 - 0
 30/01/09 Division One vs. Clyde (H)  1 - 0
 23/01/09 1st Round vs. Ayr Parkhouse (H)  9 - 0
 16/01/09 Division One vs. Partick (H)  3 - 2
 09/01/09 Division One vs. Rangers (H)  4 - 0
 02/01/09 Division One vs. Motherwell (A)  4 - 1
 01/01/09 Division One vs. Port Glasgow Ath (H)  1 - 0
 26/12/08 Division One vs. Kilmarnock (A)  0 - 2
 25/12/08 Division One vs. Third Lanark (A)  1 - 2
 19/12/08 Division One vs. St Mirren (H)  4 - 1
 12/12/08 Division One vs. Aberdeen (H)  2 - 2
 28/11/08 Division One vs. Airdrie (H)  1 - 0
 21/11/08 Division One vs. Falkirk (H)  3 - 3
 14/11/08 Division One vs. Kilmarnock (H)  5 - 0
 07/11/08 Division One vs. Port Glasgow Ath (A)  3 - 2
 31/10/08 Division One vs. Motherwell (H)  3 - 1
 24/10/08 Division One vs. Aberdeen (A)  1 - 1
 10/10/08 Division One vs. Celtic (A)  0 - 2
 03/10/08 Division One vs. Hamilton (A)  1 - 0
 28/09/08 Division One vs. Rangers (A)  0 - 2
 26/09/08 Division One vs. Queen's Park (H)  7 - 1
 12/09/08 Division One vs. Falkirk (H)  1 - 1
 05/09/08 Division One vs. Partick (A)  1 - 1
 29/08/08 Division One vs. Celtic (H)  2 - 1
 22/08/08 Division One vs. Airdrie (A)  5 - 2
 15/08/08 Division One vs. Hearts (H)  2 - 1
 28/04/08 Division One vs. St Mirren (A)  0 - 0
 20/04/08 Division One vs. Rangers (A)  0 - 2
 28/03/08 Division One vs. Celtic (H)  2 - 0
 21/03/08 Division One vs. Kilmarnock (A)  1 - 1
 14/03/08 Division One vs. Queen's Park (A)  3 - 1
 07/03/08 Division One vs. Hamilton (A)  1 - 2
 29/02/08 Division One vs. Falkirk (H)  2 - 2
 19/02/08 2nd Round Second Replay vs. Aberdeen (N)  1 - 3
 15/02/08 2nd Round Replay vs. Aberdeen (H)  2 - 2
 08/02/08 2nd Round vs. Aberdeen (A)  0 - 0
 01/02/08 Division One vs. Motherwell (H)  0 - 0
 25/01/08 1st Round vs. Airdrie (H)  1 - 0
 18/01/08 Division One vs. Partick (H)  3 - 0
 11/01/08 Division One vs. Airdrie (H)  2 - 0
 04/01/08 Division One vs. Hearts (H)  0 - 0
 01/01/08 Division One vs. Port Glasgow Ath (H)  3 - 1
 28/12/07 Division One vs. Clyde (A)  3 - 2
 25/12/07 Division One vs. Third Lanark (A)  1 - 1
 21/12/07 Division One vs. Rangers (H)  1 - 2
 14/12/07 Division One vs. Morton (A)  2 - 2
 07/12/07 Division One vs. Aberdeen (A)  1 - 1
 30/11/07 Division One vs. Hamilton (H)  3 - 0
 23/11/07 Division One vs. Kilmarnock (H)  4 - 0
 16/11/07 Division One vs. Port Glasgow Ath (A)  5 - 0
 09/11/07 Division One vs. Third Lanark (H)  1 - 0
 02/11/07 Division One vs. Hibernian (A)  1 - 0
 26/10/07 Division One vs. St Mirren (H)  6 - 0
 19/10/07 Division One vs. Queen's Park (H)  5 - 0
 12/10/07 Division One vs. Clyde (H)  6 - 1
 05/10/07 Division One vs. Motherwell (A)  1 - 0
 28/09/07 Division One vs. Morton (H)  5 - 2
 21/09/07 Division One vs. Aberdeen (H)  1 - 0
 14/09/07 Division One vs. Hearts (A)  0 - 1
 07/09/07 Division One vs. Airdrie (H)  3 - 1
 31/08/07 Division One vs. Celtic (A)  2 - 3
 24/08/07 Division One vs. Partick (H)  1 - 0
 17/08/07 Division One vs. Falkirk (A)  2 - 1
 20/04/07 Division One vs. Hibernian (H)  0 - 0
 13/04/07 Division One vs. Queen's Park (H)  0 - 0
 08/04/07 Division One vs. Hearts (H)  2 - 0
 06/04/07 Division One vs. Falkirk (A)  2 - 4
 01/04/07 Division One vs. Rangers (A)  2 - 2
 30/03/07 Division One vs. Airdrie (H)  1 - 1
 23/03/07 Division One vs. Celtic (A)  0 - 0
 16/03/07 Division One vs. Hamilton (H)  1 - 0
 09/03/07 Division One vs. Kilmarnock (A)  3 - 1
 02/03/07 Division One vs. Third Lanark (H)  2 - 1
 23/02/07 2nd Round vs. Renton (A)  0 - 1
 16/02/07 1st Round Replay vs. Partick (H)  5 - 1
 09/02/07 1st Round vs. Partick (A)  2 - 2
 19/01/07 Division One vs. Motherwell (H)  1 - 0
 01/01/07 Division One vs. Clyde (H)  0 - 2
 29/12/06 Division One vs. St Mirren (H)  2 - 1
 25/12/06 Division One vs. Third Lanark (A)  0 - 2
 22/12/06 Division One vs. Morton (A)  2 - 1
 15/12/06 Division One vs. Partick (H)  5 - 0
 08/12/06 Division One vs. Aberdeen (A)  3 - 0
 01/12/06 Division One vs. Port Glasgow Ath (A)  1 - 1
 24/11/06 Division One vs. Airdrie (A)  2 - 1
 17/11/06 Division One vs. St Mirren (A)  1 - 1
 10/11/06 Division One vs. Aberdeen (H)  0 - 0
 03/11/06 Division One vs. Kilmarnock (H)  4 - 2
 27/10/06 Division One vs. Partick (A)  0 - 0
 20/10/06 Division One vs. Celtic (H)  0 - 0
 13/10/06 Division One vs. Motherwell (A)  3 - 0
 06/10/06 Division One vs. Morton (H)  1 - 0
 29/09/06 Division One vs. Hibernian (A)  4 - 0
 24/09/06 Division One vs. Clyde (A)  1 - 1
 22/09/06 Division One vs. Rangers (H)  2 - 0
 08/09/06 Division One vs. Hearts (A)  0 - 0
 01/09/06 Division One vs. Falkirk (H)  3 - 2
 25/08/06 Division One vs. Hamilton (A)  3 - 1
 18/08/06 Division One vs. Port Glasgow Ath (H)  0 - 1
 31/03/06 Division One vs. Queen's Park (A)  0 - 0
 10/03/06 Division One vs. Airdrie (H)  0 - 0
 03/03/06 Division One vs. Partick (A)  0 - 1
 24/02/06 Division One vs. Morton (A)  0 - 0
 17/02/06 Division One vs. Rangers (H)  1 - 1
 03/02/06 Division One vs. Celtic (H)  1 - 0
 27/01/06 1st Round vs. Celtic (H)  1 - 2
 20/01/06 Division One vs. Motherwell (H)  2 - 0
 13/01/06 Division One vs. Hearts (A)  0 - 4
 06/01/06 Division One vs. Aberdeen (A)  2 - 1
 30/12/05 Division One vs. Port Glasgow Ath (H)  1 - 1
 25/12/05 Division One vs. Third Lanark (A)  2 - 1
 23/12/05 Division One vs. Hibernian (H)  1 - 1
 16/12/05 Division One vs. Kilmarnock (H)  2 - 2
 09/12/05 Division One vs. Falkirk (H)  3 - 1
 02/12/05 Division One vs. St Mirren (A)  1 - 1
 25/11/05 Division One vs. Airdrie (A)  2 - 1
 18/11/05 Division One vs. Aberdeen (H)  6 - 0
 11/11/05 Division One vs. Falkirk (A)  0 - 2
 04/11/05 Division One vs. Third Lanark (H)  2 - 0
 28/10/05 Division One vs. Celtic (A)  1 - 3
 21/10/05 Division One vs. Hearts (H)  1 - 1
 14/10/05 Division One vs. Rangers (A)  1 - 1
 07/10/05 Division One vs. Kilmarnock (H)  2 - 1
 30/09/05 Division One vs. Port Glasgow Ath (A)  1 - 1
 23/09/05 Division One vs. Queen's Park (H)  1 - 0
 16/09/05 Division One vs. Motherwell (A)  1 - 4
 09/09/05 Division One vs. Partick (H)  1 - 1
 02/09/05 Division One vs. Morton (H)  3 - 1
 26/08/05 Division One vs. Hibernian (A)  1 - 2
 19/08/05 Division One vs. St Mirren (H)  1 - 2

 List of First Team Competitive goals scored (click to expand)
 15/10/10 Division One vs. Airdrie (A)  1 - 3
 25/12/09 Division One vs. Third Lanark (A)  2 - 0
 13/03/09 Division One vs. St Mirren (A)  2 - 1
 23/01/09 1st Round vs. Ayr Parkhouse (H)  9 - 0
 19/12/08 Division One vs. St Mirren (H)  4 - 1
 12/12/08 Division One vs. Aberdeen (H)  2 - 2
 18/01/08 Division One vs. Partick (H)  3 - 0
 01/01/08 Division One vs. Port Glasgow Ath (H)  3 - 1
 28/12/07 Division One vs. Clyde (A)  3 - 2
 14/12/07 Division One vs. Morton (A)  2 - 2
 23/11/07 Division One vs. Kilmarnock (H)  4 - 0
 09/11/07 Division One vs. Third Lanark (H)  1 - 0
 19/10/07 Division One vs. Queen's Park (H)  5 - 0
 12/10/07 Division One vs. Clyde (H)  6 - 1
 15/12/06 Division One vs. Partick (H)  5 - 0
 03/11/06 Division One vs. Kilmarnock (H)  4 - 2
 06/10/06 Division One vs. Morton (H)  1 - 0
 24/09/06 Division One vs. Clyde (A)  1 - 1
 01/09/06 Division One vs. Falkirk (H)  3 - 2
 25/08/06 Division One vs. Hamilton (A)  3 - 1
 20/01/06 Division One vs. Motherwell (H)  2 - 0
 06/01/06 Division One vs. Aberdeen (A)  2 - 1
 25/11/05 Division One vs. Airdrie (A)  2 - 1
 23/09/05 Division One vs. Queen's Park (H)  1 - 0
 02/09/05 Division One vs. Morton (H)  3 - 1

  = Starting Appearances (Sub Appearances) | = Goals | NPS = Squad Appearances (as Non-Playing Sub) | GtGR = Goals to Games Ratio
 Yel = Yellow Cards/Cautions | Red = Red Cards/Dismissals | W/D/L - Games won, drawn or lost as percentage of games played in


Timeline


  • Date of Birth


  • Signed For Dundee


  • First Team Debut

    Dundee 1 - 2 St Mirren
    League (Division One)


  • First Goal

    Dundee 3 - 1 Morton
    League (Division One)


  • 50th Appearance

    Morton 1 - 2 Dundee
    League (Division One)


  • 50th League Appearance

    Third Lanark 2 - 0 Dundee
    League (Division One)


  • 100th Appearance

    Queen's Park 1 - 3 Dundee
    League (Division One)


  • 100th League Appearance

    Partick 1 - 1 Dundee
    League (Division One)


  • 200th Appearance

    Dundee 2 - 1 Hibernian
    Scottish Cup (1st Round)


  • Last Appearance

    Dundee 1 - 2 Morton
    League (Division One)


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